Ten years in professional football put Jesús Hernán Coldeira in a preponderant place within the Tandilenses who transcended outside the city. Since he left in 1998 to play at Arsenal de Sarandí, until his retirement in 2008 at Deportivo Español, the goalkeeper played for teams in the metropolitan area. Nine of those seasons were in promotion and one, 2002/2003, in the main category with the Viaducto club.
“Chispa” reviewed his career with this newspaper and told his news, in which he is part of the technical staff of Almagro. From his origins, he recalled that “my beginnings were in San José, I went to school and played for the club. I went to Newbery, where my father had the canteen, until the club stopped participating in the Tandilense Football League and there I joined Santamarina, at Fifth Division age ”.
-Always at the bow?
-Yes, although in Newbery he sometimes played forward. After that, I decided on the bow.
-What references did you have in the position?
-I used to look a lot at the goalkeepers in Tandil, such as José Ducca, Caffaro, the “Pantera” Rodríguez and “Loco” Gómez, who stopped at Newbery, the team we were always fans of.
-How did you go through clubs in Buenos Aires in your formative stage?
– Being in Santamarina, I got a test in Vélez and I was a year in the club. From there I went to Independiente de Avellaneda, where I spent two years. I left Tandil having made my debut in the First Division, in a friendly octagonal that made Estación Quequén de Necochea. And I came back after being released from Independiente.
-Did you share with players who later have transcended at the national level?
-Yes, in Vélez with Cristian Bassedas, among others. And in Independiente, of my class were Gustavo López, Pablo Rotchen, “Pipa” Cassano. Before I arrived, Javier Zanetti had played, which is also ’73.
– When you returned to Santamarina did you feel that you had missed the train of professional football?
-I had just been released, I was not in a good moment. At the beginning of the following year I began to study Physical Education and Luis Petrucci, who was our coach, convinced me to put him forward. I started having good tournaments and being considered for regionals.
– One of the jumps was to go to University Group, in those beginnings of Argentine A?
-Of course, at the beginning it was with “Negro” Conti as coach and later with Horacio Rodríguez. In that second season came the “Russian” Siviski, Carlos Amodeo, the “Tano” Leani. And they brought Jorge Gregorutti, who had saved in First in Gymnastics and Fencing La Plata. He arrived on a Friday and the tournament started on Sunday. I had to play first and never came out again.
– Was it a team that began to dismantle with the running of the competition?
-Richard (President Ricardo Zarini) started to stay alone, it became difficult to keep the team. Players left, we had a long season with travel. I take it as a nice experience, because what one wanted was to play.
– Were those trips by car?
-They gave us the cars of Cerromotor, of Renault. We were driving ourselves, directly to play. If not, we traveled in those little buses, all tight. It ended up being unsustainable.
The Arsenal gate
-How did AFA football come back at Arsenal?
-I got a test, in ’98. I was playing the local tournament with Group, the time we beat Velense, in the stadium. At that time I was going to train in Buenos Aires from Monday to Friday, and on weekends I would return to play in Tandil. I stayed at Arsenal, although I knew it would be difficult to win a place, because I didn’t see many chances. My old man told me “take advantage of it, because it may be the last”. I was twenty-four-twenty-five years old.
– At what moment was Arsenal?
-I was consolidated in Nacional B and began to have aspirations to fight at the top.
– Did it cost you to win a place?
-The first six months I played some games in Reserve, and in the second semester I had to make my debut in First.
-In the least expected way?
-It was kind of amazing. The owner was Rubén Urquiza and the alternate “Chicho” Gaona. I went to the bank at a game. In the second part of the tournament, “Chicho” got hurt and I had to go to the bank, against Morón at 11 in the morning, on television. On Friday my first daughter was born and on Sunday we played. At 5 minutes, Morón scored a goal and Rubén was injured. I had to go in and we won 2 to 1.
-Ownership earned, you might think.
-But “Chaucha” Bianco, who was our coach, demanded it from Gaona to return, on the following date against Central Córdoba de Rosario. He played and we lost 4 to 1, the typical game that you get six times, you get four goals and you get hit twice in the sticks. And the following weekend we were playing with Quilmes, owner of the “Chicho” pass, so it was my chance.
-First time as a starter and undefeated?
-We won 3 to 0 against Quilmes, who for Arsenal is a classic rival.
-What happened that day with the rival goalkeeper?
-In the summary of the El Nacional program, they showed Quilmes’s harangue. When they were about to go out onto the pitch, the goalkeeper who I think was Fazio told his teammates “kick the goal, nobody knows this goalkeeper.”
-What did you think when you saw it?
-I was laughing, but on the other hand he was right. It is what we all think when a goalkeeper is a rookie or has few games. The issue is that I had experience of having played here in the area, in Argentine tournaments, of having come across great people. I already had a certain route.
-How did that season end?
-José (Bianco) banked me, I was five games without conceding goals and we finished second in the zone, behind Chacarita. It did not give us to get promoted, but it allowed me to consolidate myself.
– Were you always protagonists until you were promoted?
-There were good campaigns, we were close until it happened in 2002.
-How was that season 2002-2003, already in First?
-We saved ourselves from relegation by missing a couple of dates for the end. We had to experience beautiful things, such as going to the River court, drawing 2 to 2 with Boca de Bianchi in La Bombonera. I didn’t get to play, because “Ale” Limia consolidated in the position, but I enjoyed it from the place that I had to occupy. So, I evaluated the possibility of leaving the club to have continuity, and so I returned to Nacional B in Defensores de Belgrano.
The Grondona club
-Did you ever have a deal with Julio Humberto Grondona?
-Yes, with the whole family. Don Julio was one more, a guy who always showed you his simplicity. I always ran into Diego Puissant, who was working with him at that time.
-Was Arsenal very orderly thanks to the Grondona?
-At that time it was a family club, where nothing was missing thanks to the way it was organized. Arsenal went from lowest to highest. Many think that due to the power of Don Julio, from one day to the next it would rise. He did it fighting her, to the lungs. Once we got promoted, we played other courts until the new one was made. Steps were always taken to grow.
-Which teams did you have to face that the fans impacted you?
-A Chacarita had to live it as a rival and being there. That crowd is impressive, especially with the team doing well. Quilmes, Instituto, Chicago are others that always have many people.
-Did you have a difficult time in Chacarita?
-Of course, because the club descended from First and changed everything. There were kids from Boca, with Heber Mastrángelo as a technician, and there was “Flaco” Vivaldo. He told me to go. Later the “Flaco” left in conflict with the club and I had to play the last games. We were saved from going down to Metropolitan B with just enough. We beat Defensores de Belgrano on penalties and in the Promotion we tied both games with Platense, but there we had a sports advantage and we maintained the category.
– Are the joys of promotion with Arsenal comparable and of being saved with Chacarita?
-With Arsenal, I played the entire first half and then I had to leave. He seized the Limia ownership and consolidated. It was an immense joy, because we were a group that had been together for several years. With Chacarita it was the other way around, I ended up being a starter. And it was a great relief, to save such a big club from relegation.
-What did the other clubs you played for in AFA, Defensores de Belgrano, Los Andes and Deportivo Español leave you?
-Defensores was similar to Arsenal, a half-family club. A nice team was put together, “Pepe” Sand played, who was on loan from River. Los Andes and Español were in Primera B, the purest ascent.
– There you retired?
-I had no chance after Spanish and just called “Leo” Ramos to join the coaching staff of Brown de Madryn. Six months later I returned to Arsenal to work in the Reserve.
-Were there any possibilities of returning to Santamarina?
-There was the chance, before going to Los Andes. The issue is that I did not want to talk about money with a friend like Diego Puissant. So, I wanted the president to call me, who at that time was Marcelo Cifuentes. We were going to agree without problems, but it took a long time and Los Andes appeared.
-In Tandil do you feel more identified with Santamarina or with Grupo?
-With Santamarina at the local level and with the Group at the regional level. Santamarina gave me the chance to make inferiors and make my debut in the First Division, but at the club I never played a Regional. In addition, I caught it in a difficult time economically, to the point that I never charged a peso to play. In Group I charged, the same as the two times I went to Huracán de Tres Arroyos or when I passed through Jorge Newbery de Lobería.
-Did you also have a visit to Ferro?
-Yes, a Regional with the “Duck” Be a technician. It was a beautiful experience, beyond the rivalry with Santamarina. In Tandil we all know each other and many of us went through the two clubs.
-A regional level did you see players who could have reached higher?
-Many. I remember Daniel Chávez, the striker for Brown de Arrecifes, a tremendous scorer. In Aldosivi, for example, there was Pablo Corti, who also had the conditions to have played in a higher category.
In the other side
-Was the retirement and change from joining a coaching staff complicated?
-It cost me. At first, I was still thinking like a player. Over time, I was correcting those things.
-You coached, you were a field assistant and goalkeeper coach. What do you keep?
– I did not take so much the pleasure to the technical direction. I fully identified with the role of goalkeeping coach.
-Do you watch a game and pay special attention to the goalkeepers?
-I pay attention to them, but it is not that I remove all the defects. It is one thing to resolve the situation in the moment and another to see it from the outside.
-Do you already have the coaching staff consolidated with Esmerado?
-With the “Cat” we were at Brown de Madryn, we fought for promotion. At Temperley, we descended after a good first part. In Almagro also well, in Chicago few games and we returned to Almagro, where we are comfortable and identified.
-Is it a group of friends?
-El “Gato”, Alejandro Limia and I concentrated together in Arsenal. We share a lot of time together, a friendship of years.
-Who was the best goalkeeper you shared a squad with?
– “Chicho” Gaona had a great level, a lot of projection and he ended up fulfilling it. And the “Flaco” Vivaldo, a phenomenon. He came to Chacarita after having been about to play in Boca. Bianchi was going to take him and he ended up leaving after losing the Copa Libertadores with Once Caldas. There he took Brindisi and chose Medrán, from Atlético de Rafaela.
-Was Vivaldo the opposite of you in terms of characteristics?
-Yes, Vivaldo was like Gatti. I was much more traditional, I tried to be regular. I was trying to be safe, not complicate myself or do anything weird.
-How do you see the level of the team’s goalkeepers?
-Two or three kids appeared, who are in Europe and playing well, as are the cases of Musso, Martínez and Marchesín. That gives peace of mind that there are variants. Above are Andrada and Armani always on a good level. I met “Flaco” Andrada at Arsenal, when Lanús gave him on loan, and he is a phenomenon. We are well covered in the arch.